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September 05, 2008, 10:42:29 pm

dieselherb

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1.8T turbo on 1.6TD
« on: September 05, 2008, 10:42:29 pm »
Can a 1.8T turbo and manifold from a 99 Passat be used on a 1.6TD in a caddy? Looks like a early TDI turbo but it is water and oil cooled.Can get one cheap.
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Reply #1September 05, 2008, 11:31:15 pm

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2008, 11:31:15 pm »
Sorry, the 1.8t exhaust manifolds bolt pattern is not compatable with 8valve motors.
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Reply #2September 06, 2008, 01:08:08 am

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 01:08:08 am »
not to mention the A/R is wayyyy off.  you will start to get power at about 4k+ rpm... way out of the useable powerband.  what you want is a true TDI turbo that will give you good low end torque.


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Reply #3September 06, 2008, 06:42:21 am

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 06:42:21 am »
Quote from: "jtanguay"
not to mention the A/R is wayyyy off.  you will start to get power at about 4k+ rpm... way out of the useable powerband.  what you want is a true TDI turbo that will give you good low end torque.


stock 1.8t 150hp turbo isn't big I think...
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Reply #4September 06, 2008, 11:14:50 am

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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 11:14:50 am »
Quote from: "zaprzal"
Quote from: "jtanguay"
not to mention the A/R is wayyyy off.  you will start to get power at about 4k+ rpm... way out of the useable powerband.  what you want is a true TDI turbo that will give you good low end torque.


stock 1.8t 150hp turbo isn't big I think...


doesn't matter if the turbo is big... gasser turbo's are meant to give full boost in the upper rpm range.  diesels give full boost in the low rpm range.  just built differently.  even though the turbo is pretty small, i doubt it would be even useable, unless your diesel revs to 6 grand.


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Reply #5September 06, 2008, 11:59:19 am

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 11:59:19 am »
Thanks for the info. I could get the turbo and manifold cheap, but if I couldn't use it not a deal.

Reply #6September 06, 2008, 12:59:27 pm

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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 12:59:27 pm »
Quote from: "jtanguay"
doesn't matter if the turbo is big... gasser turbo's are meant to give full boost in the upper rpm range.  diesels give full boost in the low rpm range.  just built differently.  even though the turbo is pretty small, i doubt it would be even useable, unless your diesel revs to 6 grand.


Not so much with the K03s, still going to be bad, but not AS bad.  VWs are designed to make significant amounts of torque at low RPMs, my Audi makes 7psi at 2500rpm (granted, 2.7 w/ 2 K03s) but if you've ever seen dyno sheets, they make max torque from 1500-4500rpm, which requires a very fast spooling turbo.

here's a K03 compressor map: http://www.ross-tech.net/andy/vwfiles/chipmap.gif

like I said, though, still going to be laggy, but if you get one for free or something, wouldn't be horrible.

however, all this is negated since the 1.8T manifold is different than the 8V, it's a 20V head, so it won't even bolt up.


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Reply #7September 06, 2008, 02:34:37 pm

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2008, 02:34:37 pm »
Quote from: "jtanguay"
doesn't matter if the turbo is big...


it does matter ;)

Quote from: "jtanguay"
gasser turbo's are meant to give full boost in the upper rpm range.


Quote from: "jtanguay"
i doubt it would be even useable, unless your diesel revs to 6 grand.


1.8t isn't revving very high (stock) and has boost preety low...

what do you think about this?
http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=16008
biiiiiiiig exhaust housing,  and max power still below 5000rpm ;)
1.6td 170hp 290nm powered by Holset - sold
golf mk2 1.9tdi PD 193hp/400nm ;)

 

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