Author Topic: Adding oil squirters? (Read 16450 times)

dillenger1 · « **on:** December 12, 2007, 02:26:53 pm »

I just want to confirm.Can you go to a vw dealer and have them install the oil squirters that come in a td in an na block?If so ,can i do it myself.My father(4bta4me)is very mechanically inclined,more so then me i mean.WE CAN DO ANYTHING!!!lol
ben

burn_your_money · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2007, 02:32:00 pm »

I highly doubt a dealer would do that for you. You need to make certain that the oil squirter is shooting the right spot on the piston or it will be much less effective.

saurkraut · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2007, 02:36:54 pm »

You also need a rather large notch in your piston skirts.

A better investment woud be a full 2.5" or 3" exhauste system. biggest EGT dropper you can do.

jtanguay · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2007, 03:56:54 pm »

Quote from: "dillenger1"

I just want to confirm.Can you go to a vw dealer and have them install the oil squirters that come in a td in an na block?If so ,can i do it myself.My father(4bta4me)is very mechanically inclined,more so then me i mean.WE CAN DO ANYTHING!!!lol
ben

well the answer to that question is yes. you can. but as stated above you need the TD pistons (notched otherwise the pistons will karate chop your oil squirters and do some nice damage) and i'm not sure if the non turbo oil pumps dish out enough PSI as the turbo oil pumps. they do 'steal' quite a bit of oil pressure and that must be accounted for.

as for where to drill, i'm not sure. probably having a TD block around would be very handy, but then again, why wouldn't you use that one? :lol:

a larger downpipe would be a really good idea in conjunction with the oil squirters, or even just on its own. do you have/know where to get oil squirters for a good price??? i thought they were expensive.

dillenger1 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2007, 04:04:46 pm »

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No i dont know for sure ,just kicking around ideas .I was thinking a vw dealer,but i guess i should call

jtanguay · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2007, 04:08:29 pm »

Part # 068 103 157 D [Oil Spray Jet] Fits: MF,RA, SB,JR,1V

if it helps any... and it seems like it lists the price for around $10? Not too sure what the currency is though

CoolAirVw · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2007, 07:42:55 pm »

See the flat spots in the block next to the cylinder with 2 holes in it? One is a bolt hole that holds down the squirter. The other is drilled into the oil pressure "jacket" that runs the length of the block. You would need to first aquire the squirter, install the turbo piston and mark the location of the "notch", then mill enough space flat for the squirter to fit (in the right location). Then drill into the block for the bolt and for the passage into the oil jacket. Then bend the squirter into the right spray position.

Fionn · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2007, 08:11:24 am »

Hi,
I ordered a set of squirters this week with the intention of doing this.
They were expensive - I was told to expect around 20 euro each, I ordered them from the main dealer, not sure if they're available elsewhere.
I'm hoping to add them to my 86' JP code block, it already has the areas for the squirters milled flat so I'm hoping it should be relatively simple to drill and tap for the bolt hole and drill for the oil feed.
I'm planning on installing a TD oil pump also & notching my existing piston skirts. I had the block bored, relined and skimmed with the pistons skimmed to match.
Regards,
Fionn.

subsonic · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2007, 09:29:58 am »

You could just coat the piston tops with a ceramic coating to help block the heat transfer. Add the bigger down pipe and you should be all set.

Fionn · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2007, 02:05:36 pm »

I cant find anyone doing ceramic coating here unfortunately but I'm sure it's a good option for those that have it available to them.

subsonic · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2007, 02:12:25 pm »

I am sure someone is doing it over there. I think we have a few members from Ireland who post here. Perhaps they can help.

burn_your_money · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2007, 03:23:31 pm »

Quote from: "subsonic"

You could just coat the piston tops with a ceramic coating to help block the heat transfer. Add the bigger down pipe and you should be all set.

Pistons absorb around 20% of the combustion heat. If you are just coating them and blocking the heat transfer there will be 20% more (well less then this of course) heat going past the exhaust valve.

socalsean · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2007, 01:33:31 am »

BMW oil squirters are about $10 each and are very high quality. My friends use them in Volvo applications with great results! You could always go that route if the VW parts are too expensive.

CoolAirVw · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2007, 03:37:17 pm »

Quote from: "socalsean"

BMW oil squirters are about $10 each and are very high quality. My friends use them in Volvo applications with great results! You could always go that route if the VW parts are too expensive.

Can you give us a part number and source for those squirters?

socalsean · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2007, 02:37:48 pm »

Quote from: "CoolAirVw"

Quote from: "socalsean"
BMW oil squirters are about $10 each and are very high quality. My friends use them in Volvo applications with great results! You could always go that route if the VW parts are too expensive.

Can you give us a part number and source for those squirters?

Sure thing.

11-11-1-739-907

Here is a thread on how we put them into our Volvo engines. Same basic idea here.

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=115422

sean