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Reply #45January 10, 2010, 12:44:46 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2010, 12:44:46 pm »
That's what this forum is all about man!  Making it happen! ;)
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Reply #46February 13, 2010, 12:32:37 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2010, 12:32:37 pm »
The 12mm LT pump is a direct bolt on install.  It has the proper timing curves, camplate, ect; the LT's are larger displacement 4 cylinder engines.  and I have not noticed any low end fueling problems.
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Reply #47February 13, 2010, 05:49:05 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2010, 05:49:05 pm »
The LT pump does have a low smoke governor. You can read all about it in the Bosch yellow jacket book to understand how it pulls back fueling to limit smoke at lower rpms. I have modified several to supply more aggressive fueling below 2000 rpm (on the smaller TDIs), and it does make a difference. Unless you have spent as much time setting these up on a variety of different setups as I have, then we have nothing further to discuss.
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Reply #48February 14, 2010, 02:05:09 am

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2010, 02:05:09 am »
So, with governor modded LT pump. Can I expect same horsepower than 12mm electric pump?
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Reply #49February 15, 2010, 03:59:37 am

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« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2010, 03:59:37 am »
in the tdi-m the governor it's not the only single point  the came plate the intal pression the lda,the dynamic advance...

Reply #50October 09, 2011, 06:32:16 pm

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Reply #51October 09, 2011, 07:00:16 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2011, 07:00:16 pm »
1500 bucks is prolly more than giles would charge to build an MTDI.. kinda defeating the purpose. it would be counter productive to buy that pump, rather than have giles build you one FOR YOUR ENGINE..
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86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
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Reply #52October 09, 2011, 08:45:17 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2011, 08:45:17 pm »
Giles price is: for a normal M-TDI pump is $1400 with your providing 2 pump cores(TDI pump and one AAZ pump for him
to combine the TDI pump with)  if you are looking for more power He will need to upgrade the parts inside the pump
to do this it's an extra $700.
Considering those price and the cores + parts u can almost buy 2 brand new mtdi pump from those guys.
I think we need some input about their perform .
« Last Edit: October 09, 2011, 09:30:14 pm by markdelevo »

Reply #53October 11, 2011, 10:28:41 am

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2011, 10:28:41 am »
Giles = $2000 for Mtdi. thats Gilesified!!
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #54October 11, 2011, 02:52:56 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2011, 02:52:56 pm »
At $2000 you got money to burn, and better be putting that pump in to one hell of a car.

Giles said to me in an email that his normal M-TDI ($1400) will be within the numbers of the stock electronic pump. And the torque curve will be there too.

Reply #55October 12, 2011, 01:29:13 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2011, 01:29:13 pm »
At $2000 you got money to burn, and better be putting that pump in to one hell of a car.

Giles said to me in an email that his normal M-TDI ($1400) will be within the numbers of the stock electronic pump. And the torque curve will be there too.

but if you dont have an AAZ, and a TDI pump, then its closer to 2 G's
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #56October 12, 2011, 03:04:03 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2011, 03:04:03 pm »
At $2000 you got money to burn, and better be putting that pump in to one hell of a car.

Giles said to me in an email that his normal M-TDI ($1400) will be within the numbers of the stock electronic pump. And the torque curve will be there too.

but if you dont have an AAZ, and a TDI pump, then its closer to 2 G's

thats correct

Reply #57October 12, 2011, 07:21:08 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2011, 07:21:08 pm »
Josh (Powered by Spearco) and i were just talking about M-TDI pumps a few nights ago, and the price of the giles unit was discussed, along with the core charges associated with it..

if you have the cores, the giles pump is the way to go, hands down.

i still think its the way to go even without cores. its a giles pump for christ sake!
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #58October 12, 2011, 08:55:16 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2011, 08:55:16 pm »
Actually price go up more then $2000 for Giles mtdi pump if you want more then regular mtdi pump in your specific needs for an extra $700 (internal modification) plus dont forget the shipping cost if you are in USA or other then Canada.
So for the special pump for the performance diesel engine AAZ IP and TDI IP cores +$1400+$700+shipping .
Nobody would say anything bad about his pumps but this kind of prices would kill the deal in this kind of economy. Or people would just go to the electronic way.
I still want to hear some feedback about this pump: http://www.advancedautomotion.com/product_info.php?cPath=49_118&products_id=109

Reply #59October 12, 2011, 11:34:49 pm

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Re: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?
« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2011, 11:34:49 pm »
has giles played with a rover pump yet??

ebay uk.. rover pump $200-$300... ship directly to him to work his magic..

but honestly my non modded rover pump with gov mod.. well guess it is somewhat modded.. makes my tdi-m run like big gasser.. with tons more torque.. next spring ill get it to a dyno.  screw with the fuel screw then.. but as of right now.. im so very happy with my rover pump.. when/if it eats the bed ill send to giles for fix/mods..

IMO its 100% bolt on with gov mod..


 

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