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Author Topic: Anyone found a 100% bolt-on MTDI pump yet?  (Read 8641 times)
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« on: November 23, 2009, 10:47:47 AM »

Wondering if anyone has found a fully bolt on mtdi pump yet?
The engine only needs to make max about 120ftlb, maybe 80-90bhp so less torque than stock and about stock power.

I.e either the original tdi or matching sprockets goes straight on and lines up, fits the tdi mounting bracket etc.
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 02:22:46 PM »

with zero mods? Not likely to happen. I imagine if such a hting existed it would be common knowledge by now. What about the LT pumps? Do they bolt straight up? From what i have heard, they seem to run ok with no mods, not sure about mounting bracket though.

my landy unit needed minimal work, and would probably have enough power for you out of the box?.

Why you ask?
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2009, 08:38:11 AM »

Well looking for one that people might have found but was only say 10mm or no LDA etc.

Interested for a mk2 golf auto, that gearbox only ever had about 115bhp/120lbft (with the 8v gti engine) maximum through it and I don't fancy finding its limits above that.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2009, 08:55:06 AM »

The Land rover pumps go in with little fuss, having a machinest open up the bore on your pump bracket isn't too big a deal. LR 300 is 11mm head so lots of power potential & they even come with a good LDA pin. Swap out your existing delivery valves to line up the injector lines & you are done!
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2009, 09:39:48 AM »

the standard 1Z pump bracket? Which sprocket do you use?
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2009, 11:23:56 AM »

the standard 1Z pump bracket? Which sprocket do you use?

ALH sprocket. Prothe has them cheeeep.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2009, 03:23:28 AM »

Agree with blackdogvan, I only had to open up hole in bracket (and the thin cover plate too) and make another bracket for the rear. Simple stuff. I used the tdi pulley, went straight on, and lines up perfect. It was bolt on enough for me, and I hadn't ever messed with stuff like this before.
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2009, 05:40:18 AM »

Ok this sounds the best idea, this is what ryanp had mentioned before also. I have an Iveco 11mm pump in the garage, but its NA, and no sprocket, may see what I can do with that too. LR pumps are plentiful here as are VW tdis. Thanks all
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2009, 09:29:37 PM »

Are there no M-tdi pumps from generator motors or motors used in boats etc?
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 06:36:58 AM »

Possibly, but must be very rare, and then probably pricey.
TDI land rovers are common though, as are mk4 golf tdi's (for the sprocket)
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 07:42:15 AM »

Okay, here in the States. What year LR am I looking for? And how much would I expect to pay for a used pump?
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2009, 12:13:22 PM »

Unfortunately LR didn't sell diesels over here so you're best bet is uk ebay or Ryanp. 4Bt pump is another option but i believe they need some tweaking for dynamic advance & on the gov. Ping Karl at westyventures (i know you're lurking here Karl!), he has brand new 12mm cummins pumps that bolt right in. My personal experience was a ebay.uk purchase from a LR breaker. He had 2 for 100lbs each so i took both, one was crap & he refunded my money. I shipped the good one & a bagged out AAZ pump for any needed bits to Giles & expect to have the whole thing installed in the new year on my AAZ/1Z, aaz cam, gt2056v, vr6 clutch, pp520, LR 300 franken motor... Maybe i should start a build thread. You can see the longer LR delivery valve issue in the 2nd shot, aaz valves solved that & the rear aaz mounting bracket bolted right up too, that's the LR one in these shots. Friend with vw shop is nice too...



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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »

What about a Peugeot 505 pump?
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 09:37:00 AM »

We've had good luck with these.

http://www.advancedautomotion.com/product_info.php?cPath=66_132&products_id=109
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 06:11:31 PM »


I think I just found the answer to my wanting to put a ALH in my bus.  Grin
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