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October 04, 2007, 02:20:49 pm

giulianot

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« on: October 04, 2007, 02:20:49 pm »
So I've changed my mind. I'm going to use a serpentine belt setup on the aaz , but my cabby has p/s as well. Will the p/s pulleys fit on top off the serpentine belt pulley without touching the frame of the car? Is the enough room to run serpentine setup and p/s in a mk1 cabrio?

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Reply #1October 10, 2007, 02:33:21 am

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2007, 02:33:21 am »
Never done it myself, but I'd imagine that if the P/S pump is on the BACK of the motor, you should have no problem. If'n you're using the stock mounting brackets for the Cabriolet, then the only clearance issue you should really have is on the AC pump (and perhaps the hood given the extra height of the AAZ motor).

 The AC pump finishes quite close to the radiator support, and there is little extra room on the front of the car. But, if the PS pump is on the lower rear of the motor on the AAZ (as I think it is), it should be in the same locatation as on the 1.8 gassser motor that came in your Cabrio.

Reply #2October 10, 2007, 09:49:54 am

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2007, 09:49:54 am »
you'll be damn close to the passenger side frame rail. if i had to guess if it would go or not like your describe, i'd guess that it would hit.

Reply #3October 10, 2007, 11:41:38 am

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2007, 11:41:38 am »
I don't know for sure but I know I ditched the serp setup because I was worried about clearance issues.
Tyler

Reply #4October 10, 2007, 01:27:35 pm

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2007, 01:27:35 pm »
aaz in mk1 golf no p/s though





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Reply #5October 10, 2007, 02:19:48 pm

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 02:19:48 pm »
Wow  :shock:  that alternator pulley is really close to the frame rail! I hope that my p/s pulley don't interfere with the frame rail. At least i dont have an a/c pump too. I'm waiting for my egt probe to come in so i can install  that before the motor and trany go in the shell.  My front mount intercooler is kinda thick (3") so i had to move the rad supports back an inch. Hopefully i'll have the motor in next week.

If the serpentine setup dose'nt fit I'll have to go back to v-belts. Do i need to run a 1.6td harmonic balancer , to dampen vibration, or can i run gasser pulleys straight on the crank pulley :?:
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Reply #6October 10, 2007, 02:27:03 pm

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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 02:27:03 pm »
The photo lies,theres quite a gap to be honest,its in the shade so its hard to tell,ive gone garrett T3 as you,you will be impressed,mine flies,had to swap all the brakes as i burnt the pads out with solid discs,now gti setup with vented disc  :wink:
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Reply #7October 10, 2007, 03:56:59 pm

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 03:56:59 pm »
IIRC you have to hammer in the framerail to fit a 1.9TD in a MK2 because the crank pulley hits the side of the framerail if it has PS. IMO you should ditch the PS altogether, it's not like a MK1 is heavy  :wink:
91 Passat syncro 1.8T swapped.

Reply #8October 10, 2007, 03:59:20 pm

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 03:59:20 pm »
Ye dont need p/s to be honest,just put more air in the tyres  :wink:
Bert

Reply #9October 10, 2007, 04:45:12 pm

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 04:45:12 pm »
i agree. no PS needed in mkIs.

Reply #10October 11, 2007, 08:30:41 am

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 08:30:41 am »
I know that p/s is not a must, but there is a  power rack in the car and i don't have a manual rack. here are some pics of the build so far
















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Reply #11October 12, 2007, 01:00:00 pm

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 01:00:00 pm »
I received my EGT gauge yesterday. Still got to drill and tap a 1/8 npt hole for egt probe. heres some pics of the gauge.







and some more pics of me serpentine setup with p/s



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Reply #12October 15, 2007, 11:55:28 am

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2007, 11:55:28 am »
IT RUNS :D

so i dropped the motor in the cabby, had to bang in the frame rail so that the serpentine tensioner pulley would clear.  Then i primed the oil pump and filled the ip with diesel and she fired up right away :D  some more pics


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Reply #13October 15, 2007, 12:56:14 pm

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2007, 12:56:14 pm »
Looking good.
How much did the frame rail need to be bent?
Tyler

Reply #14October 15, 2007, 01:12:46 pm

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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2007, 01:12:46 pm »
Honestly it cleared with no banging with .005 in clearance but i was not comfortable with that so i lower the motor down and gave it a couple love taps with a 20lb sledge and that gave me  1/4 in clearance.
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